The Francis Effect podcast: Trump's Cabinet picks, hymn debates, Ann Garrido interview

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and then Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump greet each other at a campaign event in Duluth, Ga., Oct. 23.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and then Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump greet each other at a campaign event in Duluth, Ga., Oct. 23. Trump, now the president-elect, announced Nov. 14 that Kennedy is his pick for secretary of Health and Human Services. Kennedy has expressed skepticism about the childhood vaccine schedule and has vowed to remove fluoride from U.S. drinking water. (OSV News/Reuters/Carlos Barria)

In this episode of "The Francis Effect," NCR senior correspondent Heidi Schlumpf, columnist Daniel Horan and David Dault discuss the implications of President-elect Donald Trump's Cabinet picks for vulnerable populations. They look at the recent controversies around the liturgical use of certain hymns and songwriters, and Heidi interviews Ann Garrido about how to navigate difficult conversations during the holiday season.

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