Former U.S. President Donald Trump leaves the courtroom after attending the Trump Organization civil fraud trial, in New York State Supreme Court in Manhattan Nov. 6. In a different case, a jury found Jan. 26 that Trump must pay $83 million for defaming the writer E. Jean Carroll. (OSV News/Reuters/Shannon Stapleton)
Daniel P. Horan
David Dault
NCR senior correspondent Heidi Schlumpf joins "The Francis Effect" podcast co-hosts Franciscan Fr. Daniel Horan (columnist for NCR) and David Dault, executive producer and host of "Things Not Seen: Conversations About Culture and Faith." A jury has ruled that Donald Trump must pay $83 million for defaming E. Jean Carroll. Father Daniel, Heidi and David discuss that case, as well as the role of journalism in 21st-century Catholic life. Plus, Heidi interviews Ansel Augustine about the synod and experiences of Black Catholics.
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